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The first three books were over. Merlin was no longer the narrator and the story was no longer his. It was time to celebrate!
Warning for Spoilers
Warning for Spoilers
Storyteller Knight
(Trigger Warning for Discussions of Rape and Rape Culture)
Okay, so where do you want to start?
SamoaPhoenix
Glad to leave Merlin behind. He is an unreliable narrator about
certain topics and after a while it was hard to trust what he was saying
because he made so many assumptions about people
Storyteller Knight
I agree very much with your thought that he was a bit of a sociopath
He just did not understand people at all
I agree very much with your thought that he was a bit of a sociopath
He just did not understand people at all
SamoaPhoenix
Not to the point of killing people or having no emotions at all, of course.
There's just a gap between him and normal people.
Not to the point of killing people or having no emotions at all, of course.
There's just a gap between him and normal people.
Storyteller Knight
I don't if I agree with that
Yes, he's not killing people, but he has that horrible moment after the May Day Massacre where he kinda projects his own not caring about all those dead babies onto everyone else by saying all the men totally get why Lot murdered all those kids.
I don't know-- I think he has it in his mind that he's not a killer. Like, he's an academic and it's not his job to kill. It's the job of other people. It's his job just to move things in the right direction
I don't if I agree with that
Yes, he's not killing people, but he has that horrible moment after the May Day Massacre where he kinda projects his own not caring about all those dead babies onto everyone else by saying all the men totally get why Lot murdered all those kids.
I don't know-- I think he has it in his mind that he's not a killer. Like, he's an academic and it's not his job to kill. It's the job of other people. It's his job just to move things in the right direction
SamoaPhoenix
That was weird. Like, we know Merlin keeps his head in a crisis, but he was really cold about all the babies. Everyone else in his party was freaking out about it.
That was weird. Like, we know Merlin keeps his head in a crisis, but he was really cold about all the babies. Everyone else in his party was freaking out about it.
Storyteller Knight
He was so horrible!
He was so horrible!
SamoaPhoenix
And he's all "Que sera sera."
And he doesn't even believe it's going to work. He already knows Mordred is likely to escape.
And he doesn't even believe it's going to work. He already knows Mordred is likely to escape.
I think that's what grates on me the most to have Merlin as the
narrator. He's so blah about stuff that could be really exciting or tragic,
because he's already foreseen the outcome or at least has a "feeling"
about it even if he thinks he doesn't have his powers.
Storyteller Knight
And even his moments of grief are kinda shallow and hard to swallow. Like what happened to Ninian. Like, that just kinda rang hollow.
And even his moments of grief are kinda shallow and hard to swallow. Like what happened to Ninian. Like, that just kinda rang hollow.
SamoaPhoenix
He was just sorry he'd lost what he thought was his successor.
He'd been imagining all the great things they would do.
He was just sorry he'd lost what he thought was his successor.
He'd been imagining all the great things they would do.
Storyteller Knight
Yes, yes. This. Ninian never even had a line of
dialogue in the book.
Merlin doesn't know this kid at all beyond the potential he sees
Merlin doesn't know this kid at all beyond the potential he sees
SamoaPhoenix
It was all in his head. They never actually had a relationship. He grieved, but he grieved the death of all his imaginings.
Not the actual person.
It was all in his head. They never actually had a relationship. He grieved, but he grieved the death of all his imaginings.
Not the actual person.
Storyteller Knight
Like, it makes me wonder what Merlin would have done if Arthur had died. Because there is a real sense of companionship between them and Merlin's not!death clearly devastated Arthur. But I really don't know what Merlin's reaction would be.
Like, it makes me wonder what Merlin would have done if Arthur had died. Because there is a real sense of companionship between them and Merlin's not!death clearly devastated Arthur. But I really don't know what Merlin's reaction would be.
SamoaPhoenix
It's hard to say, since Merlin is always so confident he knows major events. He never even considers that Arthur might die.
Not even when he's dueling Melwas/Meliagant.
I think if Arthur had died Merlin's whole faith would have been shaken to the core, since he believes so strongly he was lead from his own birth to create and support Arthur.
It's hard to say, since Merlin is always so confident he knows major events. He never even considers that Arthur might die.
Not even when he's dueling Melwas/Meliagant.
I think if Arthur had died Merlin's whole faith would have been shaken to the core, since he believes so strongly he was lead from his own birth to create and support Arthur.
Storyteller Knight
It definitely would have made him question his god. Which would have been nice to see and better than this meandering 'oh noes! I lost my powers again! Woe is me!'
It definitely would have made him question his god. Which would have been nice to see and better than this meandering 'oh noes! I lost my powers again! Woe is me!'
SamoaPhoenix
I was really tired of that by the end. It happened way too often, as I mentioned at the end of my review.
And he never really lost them, since he could still see the future and light candles.
We never saw him doing other stuff, other than being led to find certain things or do certain things, and avoiding Morgause's magic. Other than that, he didn't perform any fantastic feats of magic.
I was really tired of that by the end. It happened way too often, as I mentioned at the end of my review.
And he never really lost them, since he could still see the future and light candles.
We never saw him doing other stuff, other than being led to find certain things or do certain things, and avoiding Morgause's magic. Other than that, he didn't perform any fantastic feats of magic.
Storyteller Knight
I like how in both the The Hollow Hills and this one when he loses his magic, he just gets it back when it's convenient. He doesn't have to work at it to get it back.
I like how in both the The Hollow Hills and this one when he loses his magic, he just gets it back when it's convenient. He doesn't have to work at it to get it back.
SamoaPhoenix
I am not a fan of how magic works in this universe. It's too vague.
And apparently the Sight doesn't count as magic, even though that was all Merlin had in Crystal Cave.
I am not a fan of how magic works in this universe. It's too vague.
And apparently the Sight doesn't count as magic, even though that was all Merlin had in Crystal Cave.
Storyteller Knight
You know, it's weird how detailed some aspects of the book is. Like the building of Camelot (I don't effing care) whereas things that you would assume to be important like magic or the names of characters are glossed over or changed without explanation
You know, it's weird how detailed some aspects of the book is. Like the building of Camelot (I don't effing care) whereas things that you would assume to be important like magic or the names of characters are glossed over or changed without explanation
SamoaPhoenix
I am convinced Mary Stewart did this on purpose, because stuff like building Stonehenge and Camelot is the stuff Merlin really cares about. Other people? Pfff. Magic? It comes and goes, as the god wills.
I am convinced Mary Stewart did this on purpose, because stuff like building Stonehenge and Camelot is the stuff Merlin really cares about. Other people? Pfff. Magic? It comes and goes, as the god wills.
Storyteller Knight
That's a pretty interesting theory and would explain why the name Morgian was never changed to Morgan in later editions. I just there had been a few other examples in the text to make that more clear.
That's a pretty interesting theory and would explain why the name Morgian was never changed to Morgan in later editions. I just there had been a few other examples in the text to make that more clear.
SamoaPhoenix
I don't know if she changed Morgan's name on purpose to reflect Merlin's lack of caring about her. It may have just been a mistake that was never corrected because the books are so revered.
Because of all the main characters, Merlin cares about Morgan the least.
She is so unimportant, he doesn't even get upset when he finds out she stole Caliburn.
I don't know if she changed Morgan's name on purpose to reflect Merlin's lack of caring about her. It may have just been a mistake that was never corrected because the books are so revered.
Because of all the main characters, Merlin cares about Morgan the least.
She is so unimportant, he doesn't even get upset when he finds out she stole Caliburn.
Storyteller Knight
I have to say. After reading these books, Mists of Avalon is suddenly the most feminist thing ever.
I have to say. After reading these books, Mists of Avalon is suddenly the most feminist thing ever.
SamoaPhoenix
No wonder people thought so back then, if this was the other major Arthurian retelling (aside from T.H. White)
No wonder people thought so back then, if this was the other major Arthurian retelling (aside from T.H. White)
Storyteller Knight
I also understand why Persia Woolley's books were kinda glossed over and lost. They are so far ahead of their time. They may even be really far ahead of this time
I also understand why Persia Woolley's books were kinda glossed over and lost. They are so far ahead of their time. They may even be really far ahead of this time
SamoaPhoenix
Even if the women were terrible people, they were the main characters and the story is told through them. New stuff compared to Mary Stewart where half the women aren't even addressed by name.
Even if the women were terrible people, they were the main characters and the story is told through them. New stuff compared to Mary Stewart where half the women aren't even addressed by name.
Storyteller Knight
Rowena ::grumbles::
Rowena ::grumbles::
SamoaPhoenix
Ygraine was totally short changed in this series. She could have been awesome.
I kept waiting for her to do something cool and it never happened. She stayed stuck in the background.
Ygraine was totally short changed in this series. She could have been awesome.
I kept waiting for her to do something cool and it never happened. She stayed stuck in the background.
Storyteller Knight
I will say though that I think Merlin learned in this book.
And I do think his sexism lessened and he learned and grew a bit and if there
was another May Day Massacre at the end of the book he might have been
horrified
At the very least, he wouldn't have been so shitty or projecty about everyone else’s reactions
At the very least, he wouldn't have been so shitty or projecty about everyone else’s reactions
SamoaPhoenix
If she was trying to make us think Lot isn't a monster by having Merlin try to justify him, she was wasting her effort since Lot doesn't appear again and dies pretty quickly after that (book wise, in the story itself it takes another few years)
If she was trying to make us think Lot isn't a monster by having Merlin try to justify him, she was wasting her effort since Lot doesn't appear again and dies pretty quickly after that (book wise, in the story itself it takes another few years)
Storyteller Knight
Because Lot has proven himself to be such a cuddly teddy bear up to that point ::rolls eyes::
Because Lot has proven himself to be such a cuddly teddy bear up to that point ::rolls eyes::
SamoaPhoenix
He certainly isn't a round character, and Merlin justifying him didn't make him any rounder
Maybe she thought she was softening the blow for the readers by having Merlin be all "It's OK. No one will blame him; he was within his rights as a husband and king."
He certainly isn't a round character, and Merlin justifying him didn't make him any rounder
Maybe she thought she was softening the blow for the readers by having Merlin be all "It's OK. No one will blame him; he was within his rights as a husband and king."
Storyteller Knight
If that was it, it certainly didn't work because for me that was by far the worst moment of the entire book
If that was it, it certainly didn't work because for me that was by far the worst moment of the entire book
SamoaPhoenix
Back then he probably would have been within his rights. As Arthur points out when he calls Merlin out on his sexism, noble men pretty much have all the power. Everyone else might not like it, but they have little choice.
Back then he probably would have been within his rights. As Arthur points out when he calls Merlin out on his sexism, noble men pretty much have all the power. Everyone else might not like it, but they have little choice.
Storyteller Knight
I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that I don't believe the men would be totally cool with it and not sad about their dead babies
I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that I don't believe the men would be totally cool with it and not sad about their dead babies
SamoaPhoenix
If it gets too bad, of course, there could be a rebellion, as Merlin points out when the massacre occurs. Lot was pushing the line, and he, Morgause and Merlin all know it.
If it gets too bad, of course, there could be a rebellion, as Merlin points out when the massacre occurs. Lot was pushing the line, and he, Morgause and Merlin all know it.
Storyteller Knight
Thus the lying about it so nobody really knows who to be mad at (if we acknowledge that they're going to get mad which Merlin doesn't)
Thus the lying about it so nobody really knows who to be mad at (if we acknowledge that they're going to get mad which Merlin doesn't)
SamoaPhoenix
In the back of his mind, Merlin does seem to know it's a danger since he goes to such pains to try to put the blame on himself. But yeah, he does seem to think since he's not too sad, no one else is either (even though Ralf, the serving maid and the mute slave are all really upset right in front of him)
or Ulfin or whichever servant happens to be there at the time--there's not much distinction
In the back of his mind, Merlin does seem to know it's a danger since he goes to such pains to try to put the blame on himself. But yeah, he does seem to think since he's not too sad, no one else is either (even though Ralf, the serving maid and the mute slave are all really upset right in front of him)
or Ulfin or whichever servant happens to be there at the time--there's not much distinction
Storyteller Knight
It's Ulfin. Ralf stays with Ector.
It's Ulfin. Ralf stays with Ector.
SamoaPhoenix
Right
Right
Storyteller Knight
And the nice thing about Ulfin is that he actually didn't have blind loyalty to Merlin. His loyalty was to Arthur and that did sorta shake up Merlin's plans
And the nice thing about Ulfin is that he actually didn't have blind loyalty to Merlin. His loyalty was to Arthur and that did sorta shake up Merlin's plans
SamoaPhoenix
That is the major distinction. Ralf distrusted Merlin at first but after that pretty much does whatever he wants. Ulfin has trust issues since his slave master used him as a sex slave.
"Catamite" as Merlin so delicately puts it
Mary Stewart is weirdly prudish about some stuff and other stuff is right out there in the open, like men sleeping with boys
That is the major distinction. Ralf distrusted Merlin at first but after that pretty much does whatever he wants. Ulfin has trust issues since his slave master used him as a sex slave.
"Catamite" as Merlin so delicately puts it
Mary Stewart is weirdly prudish about some stuff and other stuff is right out there in the open, like men sleeping with boys
Storyteller Knight
So, maybe it's time to move onto the plot point that took up a majority of both our reviews
So, maybe it's time to move onto the plot point that took up a majority of both our reviews
SamoaPhoenix
You mean the rape and Arthur calling Merlin out on his total lack of empathy?
You mean the rape and Arthur calling Merlin out on his total lack of empathy?
Storyteller Knight
I would term it Guinevere's abduction because as much as they lobby the word around in the book, rape actually doesn't occur
I would term it Guinevere's abduction because as much as they lobby the word around in the book, rape actually doesn't occur
SamoaPhoenix
That is true. I was sort of leading up to that. Mary Stewart refuses to write an actual rape
That is true. I was sort of leading up to that. Mary Stewart refuses to write an actual rape
Storyteller Knight
Well, if Guinevere and Melwas had had sex I would call it rape no matter how Merlin tried to spin it, but they didn't so I don't
Well, if Guinevere and Melwas had had sex I would call it rape no matter how Merlin tried to spin it, but they didn't so I don't
SamoaPhoenix
You don't think they didn't?
I could have sworn they did. The mussed-up bed kinda points to that
And the fact that she's in her nightdress when Bedwyr shows up
You don't think they didn't?
I could have sworn they did. The mussed-up bed kinda points to that
And the fact that she's in her nightdress when Bedwyr shows up
Storyteller Knight
Merlin asks Arthur if Melwas had sex with Guinevere and he said no
Merlin asks Arthur if Melwas had sex with Guinevere and he said no
SamoaPhoenix
And he lied about everything else that happened, so I didn't trust that.
And he lied about everything else that happened, so I didn't trust that.
Storyteller Knight
What?
No, Arthur was telling the truth as told to him by Guinevere
What?
No, Arthur was telling the truth as told to him by Guinevere
SamoaPhoenix
Oh, I thought you meant we were going off Melwas' version of events, which we know are not true.
Again, I thought that was Guinevere twisting the truth a little bit because she's afraid of Arthur's reaction.
She told him everything else truthfully.
Oh, I thought you meant we were going off Melwas' version of events, which we know are not true.
Again, I thought that was Guinevere twisting the truth a little bit because she's afraid of Arthur's reaction.
She told him everything else truthfully.
Storyteller Knight
I don't think so. I think we're supposed to see Arthur as kinda the guiding light to Merlin's unreliable narrator. When Arthur speaks, it's the truth
I don't think so. I think we're supposed to see Arthur as kinda the guiding light to Merlin's unreliable narrator. When Arthur speaks, it's the truth
SamoaPhoenix
But Merlin does always dream truly. His dream wouldn't have had that mussed bed in it if something hadn't happened
Merlin might not see everything in his dreams, but the stuff in them is always significant.
He doesn't see stuff because he believes he knows what's going on in the vision.
But Merlin does always dream truly. His dream wouldn't have had that mussed bed in it if something hadn't happened
Merlin might not see everything in his dreams, but the stuff in them is always significant.
He doesn't see stuff because he believes he knows what's going on in the vision.
Storyteller Knight
I'm reading that section now and I don't see anything about a bed. Merlin sees them playing chess.
I'm reading that section now and I don't see anything about a bed. Merlin sees them playing chess.
SamoaPhoenix
What about when he and Bedwyr show up? I didn't just make up that there was a mussed bed in the background.
What about when he and Bedwyr show up? I didn't just make up that there was a mussed bed in the background.
Storyteller Knight
No, I see it now.
I mean, I take that as someone had been in the bed but not necessarily two
No, I see it now.
I mean, I take that as someone had been in the bed but not necessarily two
SamoaPhoenix
I assumed something happened between them, and Guinevere lied about that because even Arthur knows she's a little afraid of him. And Arthur might suspect, but he's willing to accept it because he knows she had zero choice but to pretend to be happy about it.
I assumed something happened between them, and Guinevere lied about that because even Arthur knows she's a little afraid of him. And Arthur might suspect, but he's willing to accept it because he knows she had zero choice but to pretend to be happy about it.
Storyteller Knight
I don't know. Arthur says it didn't happen, Merlin believes him and I'm willing to take that at face value.
I don't know. Arthur says it didn't happen, Merlin believes him and I'm willing to take that at face value.
SamoaPhoenix
There's so much lying going on in that whole fiasco, I'm inclined to trust nobody's version of what happened.
Merlin is unreliable, and both Guinevere and Melwas tell differing versions
There's so much lying going on in that whole fiasco, I'm inclined to trust nobody's version of what happened.
Merlin is unreliable, and both Guinevere and Melwas tell differing versions
Storyteller Knight
I... I believe Guinevere's version to Arthur. And I pretty much staked out that position when Merlin began to get all suspicious of Guinevere having a consensual relationship with Melwas. Like, I was not okay with that at all and how it was playing out because it was all the worst tropes of rape culture.
So it was such a huge moment for me when Merlin believed the version of the tale as told to Arthur by Guinevere. I mean, when Merlin realizes he believes her it’s with certainty.
I... I believe Guinevere's version to Arthur. And I pretty much staked out that position when Merlin began to get all suspicious of Guinevere having a consensual relationship with Melwas. Like, I was not okay with that at all and how it was playing out because it was all the worst tropes of rape culture.
So it was such a huge moment for me when Merlin believed the version of the tale as told to Arthur by Guinevere. I mean, when Merlin realizes he believes her it’s with certainty.
SamoaPhoenix
I thought it was great that Arthur and Merlin chose to believe Guinevere's version and leave it at that, regardless of what actually happened. They just chose to trust, and that was it. Merlin gained a little empathy for women (not enough to feel sorry for the way he treated Morgause and Morgan, sadly), and when he found out from Nimue later about Gwen and Lance, did not jump to conclusions.
I thought it was great that Arthur and Merlin chose to believe Guinevere's version and leave it at that, regardless of what actually happened. They just chose to trust, and that was it. Merlin gained a little empathy for women (not enough to feel sorry for the way he treated Morgause and Morgan, sadly), and when he found out from Nimue later about Gwen and Lance, did not jump to conclusions.
Storyteller Knight
I guess I just don't think how you could think that if they did have sex, it could be anything but rape
I guess I just don't think how you could think that if they did have sex, it could be anything but rape
SamoaPhoenix
If they did have sex, then Guinevere at least pretended to be willing and played the seductress because she knew that's what was expected.
If they did have sex, then Guinevere at least pretended to be willing and played the seductress because she knew that's what was expected.
Storyteller Knight
Uh, because he was threatening to kill her otherwise
Like, if the first thought in your head is 'what do I need to do to stay alive' and not 'I want a piece of that', it's rape
Melwas has already kidnapped her at this point, he has power, he's turning violent...
Uh, because he was threatening to kill her otherwise
Like, if the first thought in your head is 'what do I need to do to stay alive' and not 'I want a piece of that', it's rape
Melwas has already kidnapped her at this point, he has power, he's turning violent...
SamoaPhoenix
In that case it seems I was fooled by Merlin's initial assumptions of Guinevere being complicit in the whole thing.
Since that was his first reaction, it seems to have stayed in the back of my head.
In that case it seems I was fooled by Merlin's initial assumptions of Guinevere being complicit in the whole thing.
Since that was his first reaction, it seems to have stayed in the back of my head.
Storyteller Knight
Oh, good. Cause I was kinda like 'um, what?' when I read your review
Oh, good. Cause I was kinda like 'um, what?' when I read your review
SamoaPhoenix
Like him, I assumed from the start that Gwen knew he was waiting to 'kidnap' her and was complicit in the whole thing, if only because she wanted a bit of adventure but then got in over her head.
Like him, I assumed from the start that Gwen knew he was waiting to 'kidnap' her and was complicit in the whole thing, if only because she wanted a bit of adventure but then got in over her head.
Storyteller Knight
There's a lot of misdirect in here since Merlin is a horribly
sexist and unreliable narrator
SamoaPhoenix
Like I said, I trust no one's version. The result was that Arthur and Merlin chose to accept Guinevere's version no matter whether that was what really happened or not.
And that was the way things were.
Like I said, I trust no one's version. The result was that Arthur and Merlin chose to accept Guinevere's version no matter whether that was what really happened or not.
And that was the way things were.
Storyteller Knight
I trust her version but that's probably my own worldview coming in here. I think, where we are with rape culture, the right thing to do is to believe people when they come forward and say they are raped and not say it didn't happen because they didn't act this or that way or there was this or that evidence. And, Arthur's speech to Merlin is such a deliberate calling out of rape culture that, with everything else (Arthur as the speaker of truth, Merlin coming to believe Guinevere innocent through his talk with Arthur and his talk with her) I think Stewart wants us to believe her
I should probably change that to this or that circumstantial evidence, which is all Merlin has
I trust her version but that's probably my own worldview coming in here. I think, where we are with rape culture, the right thing to do is to believe people when they come forward and say they are raped and not say it didn't happen because they didn't act this or that way or there was this or that evidence. And, Arthur's speech to Merlin is such a deliberate calling out of rape culture that, with everything else (Arthur as the speaker of truth, Merlin coming to believe Guinevere innocent through his talk with Arthur and his talk with her) I think Stewart wants us to believe her
I should probably change that to this or that circumstantial evidence, which is all Merlin has
SamoaPhoenix
I can't say whether she was deliberately calling out rape culture or not. It's definite that Arthur is calling Merlin out of his lack of empathy with women and that Merlin revises his opinion of them as a result.
I can't say whether she was deliberately calling out rape culture or not. It's definite that Arthur is calling Merlin out of his lack of empathy with women and that Merlin revises his opinion of them as a result.
Storyteller Knight
Merlin being less sexist was something that definitely made me happy
Merlin being less sexist was something that definitely made me happy
SamoaPhoenix
Yes. And it made me think that Mary Stewart did it on purpose rather than expounding her own beliefs about women's inferiority to men.
Which was a relief.
Yes. And it made me think that Mary Stewart did it on purpose rather than expounding her own beliefs about women's inferiority to men.
Which was a relief.
Storyteller Knight
It'll be interesting to see how the next two books go without Merlin. Especially since Wicked Day is written in 3rd person
It'll be interesting to see how the next two books go without Merlin. Especially since Wicked Day is written in 3rd person
SamoaPhoenix
Whether the sexism will continue, outside of characters' spoken opinions.
Whether the sexism will continue, outside of characters' spoken opinions.
Storyteller Knight
Yes.
One can only hope we're better without Merlin
Yes.
One can only hope we're better without Merlin
SamoaPhoenix
Yes
Yes
Storyteller Knight
So, final thoughts?
So, final thoughts?
SamoaPhoenix
We love Arthur
He is awesome
We love Arthur
He is awesome
Storyteller Knight
Arthur is the best character ever
I said this in my review, but I really want a book told from that Arthur's perspective
Arthur is the best character ever
I said this in my review, but I really want a book told from that Arthur's perspective
SamoaPhoenix
I wish
I wish
Storyteller Knight
I think it would be fascinating to tell a story from the perspective of someone that good. I'm sure I'm alone in this.
I think it would be fascinating to tell a story from the perspective of someone that good. I'm sure I'm alone in this.
SamoaPhoenix
People would complain that he's too perfect.
I wish we at least saw Arthur more.
People would complain that he's too perfect.
I wish we at least saw Arthur more.
Storyteller Knight
I agree. Although Nimue was pretty cool too
I agree. Although Nimue was pretty cool too
SamoaPhoenix
I did like her.
I did like her.
Storyteller Knight
I think those two play into why I ultimately liked this book
I think those two play into why I ultimately liked this book
SamoaPhoenix
I didn't really. It went on too long.
I didn't really. It went on too long.
Storyteller Knight
So I guess we move on to Wicked Day in our quest to try and agree as much as we did in Crystal Cave again
So I guess we move on to Wicked Day in our quest to try and agree as much as we did in Crystal Cave again
SamoaPhoenix
We were closer on this one.
We were closer on this one.
Storyteller Knight
We were. Maybe we'll get back to that as we move towards book five
We were. Maybe we'll get back to that as we move towards book five
SamoaPhoenix
We'll see. It's not important that we agree, we're reviewing the books and giving our own opinions.
We'll see. It's not important that we agree, we're reviewing the books and giving our own opinions.
Storyteller Knight
Yup. So, we'll be back before the end of February with our thoughts on Wicked Day
Yup. So, we'll be back before the end of February with our thoughts on Wicked Day
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